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30 January 2016

Does low choline cause fatty liver disease ?

New paper
Choline, Its Potential Role in Nonalcoholic Fatty Liver Disease
Jan 2016 ... Australian Professors

In this paper, they seem to suggest low choline may be a factor in nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. The mention a few possible reasons for low choline, and this paper's purpose seems to be to include the notion that bacteria in the gut is altering choline in the diet to (amongst other thins) trimethylamine, and thus leaving little choline for absorption to the bloodstream and to the liver. This would mean the person would be choline deficient even if taking plenty of choline in their diet. The paper is possibly also inspired by the Cleveland TMA-CVD research, which has put a spotlight on TMA in the gut, choline, and a possible link to CVD.

I can only see the abstract, so am guessing at the content. It looks like it may be an overview, rather than new research. And putting a hypothesis forward for others to take on.

My Comment on the paper :

Low Choline and TMAU even when taking choline in diet
I have for a while suspected that people with TMAU will naturally be choline deficient even before a low choline diet, as the choline in their diet would be altered by gut bacteria before the choline was absorbed to the bloodstream. I think people with TMAU should get their choline status checked, and that the group should compare, to see if this is the case. Choline is quite an important nutrient, and has an association with liver and brain health in particular. In respected 'liver tonics' I have used, choline is often the main ingredient. I believe it is meant to act as a 'decongestant' to the fat in the liver. Perhaps there may even be some way to take it sub lingually.

DMB pill and choline blood status:
For those who have been following, it seems likely that Proctor & Gamble will issue a DMB pill in the future, which will block choline being degraded to TMA in the gut. This should also mean choline in the diet will not be lost to the bacteria, and the person will get normal levels of choline into the bloodstream.


My suggested actions :
Get choline status tested (choline plasma test ?)
As a group. look at possible ways to get choline plasma levels to normal (if they are not)
Look out for the future DMB pill which will stop choline in the gut being degraded to TMA.


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4 July 2015

TMAU webinar about the potential therapy 'FMO cream'

TMAU webinar June 2015
Hosted by : Rob at rareconnect.org
Guest speaker : Jake Wintermute PhD
Webinar title :  Synthetic Biology and Microbiome Engineering approaches for Trimethylaminuria



My understanding of this subject :
It could leads to a 'FMO cream' that is currently theorized as being based on genetically modified harmless skin organism rich in FMO that would oxidize TMA and other FMO substrates on touch.

The end product could be cheap and easy to manufacture but it may take millions to develop

A funder would need to be found for such a project (probably a pharma company)

As FMO needs oxygen to thrive, currently it is thought it could only realistically be a skin cream and not a 'probiotic' that could be taken orally as the gut is mostly a very 'oxygen deprived' area.

Other speculative thoughts :
Perhaps it would not need to be a 'probiotic' cream but rather just a FMO rich cream or some other oxidizer that is capable of oxidizing FMO3 substrates. FMO3 substrates can be oxidized by other metabolic pathways (not usually in humans).

It would probably not have to be specifically FMO3 enzyme, but merely a FMO enzyme (there are are 6 types of FMO enzymes known : FMO1 - FMO6). FMO's hopefully have a broad overlap in function in this situation.  

The perfect scenario would be some sort of pill that oxidizes FMO3 substrates in the gut.  

It is a very exciting potential therapy. Lets hope we can get the project going.

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Update Aug 17 :
Genos is back with it's EXOME test
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Note :
Exome/Genome testing may be better option than single gene testing.

See this post : link

Note : Genos Exome Testing.

Exome testing is almost the same price now as single gene testing. Also Genos is consumer friendly, which standard DNA labs are not.

So the blog offer to test solely for FMO3 is almost obsolete, and so no longer offered.


Does Genos fully sequence FMO3 gene ?

At the moment it is not clear, but hoped this will become clear over the next few months

Note : possible 'wild west' way of testing FMO3
Use an ancestry dna site and rummage through the raw data

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